Perhaps he should be. This idea that we should tolerate terrible things and only respond to them politely seems to produce bad outcomes, for some mysterious reason.
Any analysis of Github's functionality that begins and ends with blaming individuals and their competency is deeply mistaken while being insulting. Anyone who has ever worked at a large company knows exactly how hard it is for top performers to make changes and it's not difficult because the other people are stupid. At least in my experience, almost everyone holding this "they must be stupid" opinion knows very little about how large organizations make decisions and knows very little about how incentives at different levels of an org chart leads to suboptimal decisions and results. I would agree with you that being overly polite helps no one, but being correct does, and what they initially wrote isn't even right and it's also insulting. There's no value in that.
I am not convinced of this. Being rude and insulting someone’s intelligence is rarely a good trait. Linus got away with it due to the unique circumstances: leader of an incredibly popular open source project and a gatekeeper to a lot of access to it.
My argument against how he handles things has always been that while it may seem effective, we do not know how much more effective he would be if he did not curse people out for being dumb fucks.
And it doesn’t seem like this is a requirement for the job: lots of other project leaders treat others with courtesy and respect and it doesn’t seem to cause issues.
The reality is that it is easy to wish more people were verbally abusive to others when it isn’t directed at you. But soon as you are on the receiving end of it, especially as a volunteer, there is a greater than not chance that you will be less likely to want to continue contributing.
I think this is a good way to put it and I agree with it. Linus is a jerk and I would never want to work with him. Doubly so with zig maintainers who call other groups of people losers or monkeys. Shows a clear lack of maturity and ability to think.
Eh. Linus has a long history of abusive behavior towards other Linux contributors but also apparently apologized for it and started amending his ways. The Zig person I do not know by reputation, let alone in person. One post that he later chose to amend based on feedback is not enough for me to pass that kind of judgement. If anything, the fact that he updated it shows the opposite of lack of maturity. Adults can get frustrated. What they do with it is what matters.
Zero clue what your point is so please help me understand.
I was agreeing with your stance and adding my own anecdote that it’s a turnoff with the way those posts were originally formatted. Not people I would want to work with. If you do that’s fine. This is not star wars and simply my own choice as it’s everyone else.
I also cannot think of a time in my adult life I wanted to call out a group of people as losers or monkeys i n public.
My point is that Linus and the Zig guy are in different categories in my mind. I think it is a bit naive to lump them into the same category.
I would definitely classify the tiki torch wielding white nationalists as losers publicly, for example. In fact I have a hard time thinking of a better term for them. It could also apply to the fairly famous liar and criminal, the disgraced Congressman George Santos. Or any person who decides to flash kids at a playground, or beats his wife and children.
I think the Zig guy was a little over-dramatic with his initial post. He did change his mind, so in my book that's better than not. Linus did too, just after many years of bad behavior. My point is that your replies were painting the world with only black and white and there is a lot of gray area in between. Sometimes public shame is a valid way to do discourse. Often times it isn't. But it's not a "always" or "never" thing.
I did not realize we were lumping Microsoft engineers alongside white nationalists and pedos. Sure folks like that I can see people using descriptions like that.
> I also cannot think of a time in my adult life I wanted to call out a group of people as losers or monkeys i n public.
I guess that makes this your first time:
> Sure folks like that I can see people using descriptions like that.
All in all I think we generally agree that being respectful is better than being rude. And that some people who do not have respect also do not deserve respect. Shall we just leave it at that?
Then stop replying if you want to leave it at that? I have only agreed with your original statement and then you keep questioning my opinion. You are trying to pick over my words for no reason. Note I said I can see people using that language. I did not say myself. And of course why would I even think about pedos in the context of rude comments made to an unknown group of Microsoft engineers.
My opinion, I have no desire to work with people that write comments calling other engineers monkeys or losers. I have seen that behavior before and it’s not people I like to work with.
Because one person is judging that "terribleness" before being entitled to flame, changes to that person influence their ability to objectively make that assessment.
Say, when their project becomes popular, they gain more power and fame, and suddenly their self-image is different.
Hence it usually being a more community-encouraging approach to keep discussions technical without vitriol.
Flaming is unnecessarily disruptive, not least because it gives other (probably not as talented) folks a license to also put their worst impulses to text.
Power plants are usually not placed inside cities. Less gasoline cars inside cities will definitely improve the local situation, not just limited to CO2.
Of course you are. As the original poster mentioned, it allows lousy writers to get their ideas out in the world. Shitty writing is much more likely to be ignored than LLM writing.
There are people from and not from El Salvador that are being sent to a concentration camp there. We don't know what is happening to people being sent to other random countries.
What do you think is happening to the people who are deported? Maybe not murdered explicitly but they're definitely not having the red carpet rolled out in whatever country they land in. The US is looking for any suitor country to take "illegals" and don't care what happens after, be it for bad or worse, rarely "better".
Take a look at what happened to people deported and sent to prison in El Salvador without due process. (Torture, check, starvation check, held indefinitely without conviction of a crime, check)
Pretty damned close to how Jews were treated in WW2. I guess short of the end part where they were gassed and their corpses shoveled into ovens.
Their immoral-mass-murder really ramped up when they couldn't achieve their desired rate/expense of the immoral-mass-incarceration and immoral-mass-exiling they were already doing.
Even if your statement was correct--it isn't, ask the victims in CECOT--it isn't reassuring or exculpatory: "Don't worry guys, we may have spent 11 months speed-running years of the Nazi trajectory, but don't worry, we're stopping at only this much of the cruelty. I promise, for realsies this time. Double pinky-swear."
I'm not playing dumb, I'm asking for sources.
It's not that hard to link to articles that support your claims, the burden of proof is on you.
CECOT is a prison, are you saying regular people are being deported to a prison? If they are criminals that's a different story of course. I mean actual crimes to be clear, I don't count being illegal in the US.
I'm exasperated, because you felt confident "correcting" other people about US "deportations" in 2025, while being oddly unaware of months of major controversies and a complete departure from anything resembling "normal" immigration function.
> CECOT is a prison, are you saying regular people are being deported to a prison?
Yes! Yes! That is exactly what they did!
1. The Trump administration claimed we were somehow in a state of invasion by a crime gang from Venezuela and that somehow that allowed him to use Alien Enemies Act of 1798. A law last-used for the notorious Japanese Internment Camps during World War 2. [0]
2. The administration declared a bunch of Venezuelans as "gang members", with no charges nor trial, including several who at the time had legal status to be here, often based on nothing but "too many tattoos I don't recognize." [1]
3. They renditioned those people to a different country (El Salvador) and directly into a prison "for terrorists" (CECOT) and paid the local dictator to do it. [2][3]
4. They tried to move so fast that no judges could react, and still ended up violating court-orders to not transfer people into El Salvador, and then claimed they had no power or responsibility to fix it. (Even though they were paying US tax dollars to El Salvador to keep it going.)
So yeah, kinda a big deal, and I trust this is more than enough for you to answer other questions with your own web-searches.
> I'm exasperated, because you felt confident "correcting" other people about US "deportations" in 2025
I still very confident about my original claim that this is not even close to people being sent to German concentration camps to be (slowly) murdered. You (or anyone else that responded to me) have provided zero proof of that happening.
I do appreciate you taking the time to provide sources for your claims, thank you for that.
I agree that better, more concrete proof is needed before deporting suspects to a prison. While a point system probably catches people that have managed to evade law enforcement and that should be in jail, there is also a bigger chance of regular people getting caught up.
If the only difference is the lack of active murdering happening at the concentration camps, then that is hardly a defence against the claim that the current situation is similar to what my family faced 80 years ago. You do not need to carry water for those who seek to emulate past atrocities.
> The group arrested and delivered to the Nazi authorities 8,000–9,000 Jews. Most of them were deported to Westerbork concentration camp and later shipped to and murdered in Sobibor and other German extermination camps.
In my opinion that is a very big difference.
Most people that are deported don't end up in a prison either, they are returned to their home countries.
I see no rational way your opinion matches the reality on the ground. Can you provide any evidence that most of the people deported against their will and without due process and put into detention centres (nee concentration camps) considered the destination their home country.
Wow, driven to a lifetime of harmful decisions by an extremely regressive society. Would he have settled down and been faithful if he could have started off right in his teens, open and truthful and honest? Lies become a habit and I’ve known others who couldn’t break themselves of the cheating/lying habit and lost whole friend groups for it.
Dogs are certainly better at looking intelligent. I think dogs, being a more social animal, are more eager to please, and so are willing to be trained.
Cats can vary wildly. One of my cats seems dumb as a box of rocks and haven't even grasped the idea of object permanence. If she's tracking a laser, and I move it around a corner, she can't figure out where it went. She goes from intense staring and tracking to standing up and looking around, confused. When I bring the laser back around the corner, she's instantly back to squatting and tracking it.
Our dog remembers the location of toys at the park over long periods of time, though being able to sniff them out probably helps. He also expresses genuine surprise and suspicion when he sees novel objects (e.g. the large Christmas tree that was put up in the park, a horse and rider), because he knows they're not usually there. He doesn't like fat people, which is embarrassing, but I also knew a dog as a teenager that freaked out anytime it saw someone who wasn't Asian. Just given the amount of back and forth communication that happens between most owners and their dogs, they're very clever. Cats are some of the best hunters in the animal kingdom, but I've never felt that they're there in the way that dogs are.
> Cats can vary wildly. One of my cats seems dumb as a box of rocks and haven't even grasped the idea of object permanence
Similarly I've seen cats have one of two reactions to a mirror: ignoring it entirely or actually using it by e.g. looking me in the eyes and meowing at me through it. While I've not witnessed it personally on the internet there's also tons of videos of cats freaking out and trying to fight the other cat in the mirror.
This supports the idea that the gamut of intelligence in cats is quite wide.
I had a cat once who didn’t grasp the idea of a box having an inside. I used a cardboard box as a laundry basket and when folding laundry, I would ball pairs of socks and toss them inside the box. He always ran behind the box and couldn’t figure out where the socks went.
I had a cat for a while that seemed surprisingly capable when he was motivated. The most interesting thing I saw him pull off was pushing a heavy bag of cat food off the top of a refrigerator to split it open.
Occasionally, he'd demonstrate the ability to plan too. When he started to get territorial and start fights with neighborhood cats, we started keeping him inside. Naturally, this didn't sit right with him. After watching someone enter the house every day in the evening, eventually, he would perch next to the door in the evening waiting to bolt out the moment the door opened.
Dogs and cats have different modalities for intelligence.
Dogs are social animals that have evolved to be human companions a long time ago. This is why they are "trainable" and, therefore, seem more intelligent.
Cats are not; they are extremely good hunters that by and large tolerate humans in exchange for easy access to food and water. You can't really train them, but they will find hiding spots you didn't even know existed and you will NEVER have problems with mice with one around.
I'll echo Sohcahtoa's sibling comment to yours, but with a different pair of species: horses and donkeys (mules count as donkeys for this one).
Donkeys have a reputation for being stupid and stubborn because they're smarter than horses. Too independent for easy training, and will refuse an idiotic command.
As usual the answer is likely to be a combination of energy sources. It's not wind and solar (+storage) OR nuclear, it's wind and solar (+storage) AND nuclear (and of course other energy sources when appropriate).
But SMRs address the capex costs by reducing time and resources needed to provision them. The "M" stands for "modular" after all, ie components can be built offsite and imported, and capacity can be added incrementally.
That’s the theory, it has yet to be proven in practice.
Even by their own claims, the caped may be smaller but the $/MWh is substantially higher than large plants, and will stay so even after multiple doubling a of production.
If SMRs are cheap enough to act as backup to wind and solar, they are cheap enough to displace wind and solar entirely. And the contrapositive as well: if SMRs are not cheap enough to displace solar and wind, they aren't cheap enough to act as backup. The scenario where it's just a backup never arises in cost minimized solutions.
> If SMRs are cheap enough to act as backup to wind and solar, they are cheap enough to displace wind and solar entirely.
That doesn't follow necessarily. Wind & solar being the most cost effective doesn't mean you remove all backups just because they aren't as cost effective.
Its the other way around. If you have sufficient nuclear to act as a backup, then you have sufficient that you do not need the wind and solar in addition.
My point still stands though given that I specifically did not exclude any scenario. It makes more sense to optimize when you include all energy sources. It's still possible some sources won't end up in the final solution and that's fine.
If taking that step, why charge the batteries with extremely expensive nuclear powered electricity rather than cheap renewables?
It is done when moving electricity around when the grid is strained. Buy expensive electricity and sell it at even higher prices. But that is a vanishly tiny portion of the demand.
What is needed is an alternative storage that minimizes capex, even if that means operating at lower round trip efficiency. Hydrogen or ultra low capex thermal storage.
