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So, Atlas, Comet, Edge, Dia, Brave, Opera, etc are all Chromium.

And any browser on iOS uses the safari engine under the hood?

Looks like we are down to two browsers.



>any browser on iOS uses the safari engine under the hood?

Literally every browser on iOS. Up until iOS 17.4 you were not even allowed to have alternative browser engine. And that still holds true outside EU.

https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi...


I use Orion as my daily driver, mostly because of its Kagi integration.


Firefox still exists.


firefox is the best, and gemini in google search results is enough, for me.


There's Orion. It's not bad, but I don't love it either.


Zen is a really nice Firefox fork.

Ladybird is coming along.


Zen is an incredibly thin layer on top of Firefox, with some rather glaring performance and battery life issues. Battery life in particular was already not one of Firefox's strong suits. It looks nice, there's some interesting and useful ideas there, but Zen is ultimately "just Firefox" the same way that all of these AI browsers are "just Chromium." Ladybird's the only new kid on the block for a decade.


Didn't mean to position Zen as an alternative to Firefox, just that it adds viability to recommending a non-chromium browser cause it has nicer usability than the competition (imo, + arc was a pretty big hit before they pivoted but of course every YC start up was encouraged to use it so that might have helped with the hipness)


First, Chromium is also based on WebKit so that means really only one browser engine.

Second, I imagine so many web sites and web applications have, knowingly or unknowingly, made themselves dependent on WebKit or Chromium specific behavior, it's almost impossible to write a new browser compatible with all (or even most) of the web.


Chromium is Blink and whatever common ancestor they share has diverged much over the past decade




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