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You explained yourself right. The issue is that you keep qualifying your statements.

> it suggests are extremely counterintuitive and it would be unrealistic to expect a human to find them...

> ... in tournament conditions.

I'm suggesting that I'd like to see the ones that humans have found - outside of tournament conditions. Perhaps the gulf between us arises from an unspoken reference to solutions "unrealistic to expect a human to find" without the window-of-time qualifier?



I can wreck stockfish in chess boxing. Mostly because stockfish can't box, and it's easy for me to knock over a computer.


If it runs on a mainframe you would lose both the chess and the boxing.


Are there really boxing capable mainframes nowadays?

Otherwise I think the mainframe would lose because of being too passive


The point of that qualifier is that you can expect to see weird moves outside of tournament conditions because casual games are when people experiment when that kind of thing.




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