He dumped his wife and abandoned his child to be with this woman 18 years younger than him, and he used drugs his entire adult life, long before he met her. No, I would not describe her as a predator.
What's the source on the claim that he used drugs his entire adult life? I thought he had been sober from heroin for decades and only drank alcohol. Additionally, I'm not sure doing drugs alone qualifies one as a bad person.
In the book I read about it, people interviewed claimed she would use in front of him and supply him, intentionally sabotaging his sobriety because it kept him more easily manipulated.
As per the comment about the book above, "she would use in front of him".
In any case, using drugs is something people do. Whether famous or not. Famous people, in fast paced professions, dealing with fame, use them 10x more.
People also cheat or end relationships and go with another person, often younger. Not even in small numbers, even above 50% of marriages end like that. Passion fades, another person might reignite the joy of love.
It is what is is. Nothing especially bad as far as things people do is concerned, except if one thinks like some kind of prude.
She was clearly enabling him and playing him, that’s predatory. A similar thing happened between Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love. The friendship between Heath Ledger and Mary-Kate Olsen was very suspicious too.
No, it’s sexist to read about men being abused by manipulative women and assume misogyny. It stinks of a bias that favors women so intensely that it treats dead men as simply some kind of social breakage. That’s sad.
From what I understand he wasn’t actively doing hard drugs, but had earlier in his life. Maybe that’s not correct. I’m not sure. But if he was addicted and she or anyone else was further encouraging or indulging his addiction, well, that’s abusive by any definition I hold.
I’m not sure about his personal relationships, and don’t care much besides leaving an internet comment, but why are you so quick to dismiss that he may have experienced being manipulated or taken advantage of?
I see. Is there a class you take when graduating from boy to man that makes you impervious to manipulation? I must have missed the email telling me when class was being held. All I got was this Ted talk https://youtu.be/v4TVV6_2K2M
I'm looking at the syllabus for that class, but I'm not seeing the part where you become immune to manipulation. Responsible for your actions is covered in week two, but I'm really not seeing the manipulation armor section of the course. Could you help me please?
Sure, look in the course notes for week three: "being manipulated doesn't absolve you of responsibility either".
"I was manipulated" isn't some magic wand to throw around and absolve an adult of responsibility.
Even less so when the manipulation doesn't involve some elaborate con scheme, but simply the allure of a sexy younger woman, not to mention being blatantly explicit about it, about the fact they just want a casual relationship with you, and even ask you to stop being obsessed with them.
Isn't she an adult woman? I don't understand your line of reasoning here. Because someone is a man they can't be manipulated or taken advantage of? Is that what you're suggesting?
