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Someone "actually working with it" checking in, if that matters at all to this conversation. I'm very bearish on the industry even if I think the tech is going to stick around.

If we separate the tech from the industry, it's clear one has some value (albeit very hard to say just how much) and the other is a lot of smoke and mirrors. This is not a healthy space.



One might point out that this is the story of AI since at least the 1930's. Impressive technology demo's ... wild investment, crash, bankruptcy ... but the tech remains and in fact has useful applications all around.

AI Winters. I finished school in 2008 and have seen it happen twice.

Convnets. LSTM (and various RNNs).

Both are in wide use today.


The difference is that every single one of those previous AI winters didn’t show up in the stock market valuations — not even a little bit.


The most spectacular previous issue was "Flanders Language Valley", I believe, but that was before 2008.


They had AI in the 1930s?


Vocoders, (voice encoder-decoder, they effectively compress voice) which were going to enable computers (the analog kind) to respond to human speech in callcenters (because editing/generating the compressed stream is hard, but actually doable)

Of course it was a joke.

But ... it was used. What they were used for a little bit is voice encryption, in military communication. Vocoder -> encrypt -> transmit -> decrypt -> Vocoder and you can "talk", if you don't mind the extreme voice distortion.

Oh and the talking clock on the telephone network. That, they got working.




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